as people begin to share information, negative and positive across boundaries(borders) what effect do you think that will have on governmental war machines?.
what about government censorship will it prevail during a time of disagreement between two countries who are at war?.
i think that one of the benefits of the information age is that government can find out in a heart beat what the masses under their control feel about issues they are concerned about in other countries and public willingness to sacrifice their lives over such issues.. to me i see the way i see it is the more informed a population is the better.
I agree about the past,, but does the internet with information at your finger tips, put a big drag on individual government propaganda? Or at least add another factor to consider?
I'm thinking the most up to date countries will be taking this into consideration as a reall game changer when it comes to waging war. The internet public must be figured into the equation of should they go to war with each other.
as people begin to share information, negative and positive across boundaries(borders) what effect do you think that will have on governmental war machines?.
what about government censorship will it prevail during a time of disagreement between two countries who are at war?.
i think that one of the benefits of the information age is that government can find out in a heart beat what the masses under their control feel about issues they are concerned about in other countries and public willingness to sacrifice their lives over such issues.. to me i see the way i see it is the more informed a population is the better.
As people begin to share information, negative and positive across boundaries(borders) what effect do you think that will have on governmental war machines?
What about government censorship will it prevail during a time of disagreement between two countries who are at war?
I think that one of the benefits of the information age is that government can find out in a heart beat what the masses under their control feel about issues they are concerned about in other countries and public willingness to sacrifice their lives over such issues.
To me I see the way I see it is the more informed a population is the better. And the better it is for peace between nations, North Korean of course is an exception.
earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
Steve,
This problem you exposed cast a serious dark cloud over the reliability of these reports being accurate. I'm sure that in your profession you know the lengths a person will go to, to stay in denial, especially if they bank their whole life on an Organization claiming to be God's Organization and they work their way to the top of management in that organization.
That being said thanks for the info.
earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
The whole thing smells deception and a lack of willingness to face the facts that they are in some serious doo doo.
The GB is trying desperately to hide from their members just how bad the situation really is for fear that many more will start doing independent internet searches to find out what's happening really happening. I'm sure all this bull shit reporting of figures is going to back fire big time on these devious ass holes.
2017 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .
number of lands reporting: 240. .
I would not trust any figures the WT publishes. They are lying sacks of shit. Anything they publish has an agenda. They are trying to show growth and not let on that there is a big exodus happening. Selling valuable properties, moving to the boonies, dissolving congregations, selling Kingdom Halls, robbing congregations of their accounts and tons of bad publicity over child molestation lawsuits.
When have these guys ever been honest they only honestly print facts when it furthers their cause.
By giving a basic over all figure for the work world wide makes it easier to fudge the figures as less people know they fudged them.
Any growth they report I'm sure was inflated by the those who compiled it and suggestions from the GB.
i saw an article in the news yesterday that laws are going to be passed subjecting the police to being recorded by anyone while performing their duty or enforcing the law and encourages citizens to sue if they interfere.
some law enforcement agents become angry and confiscate recording devices from people recording them while making an arrest, etc.. it does seem that the work that the police and other government agents do is public and not private or confidential so there should be nothing to hide from the cameras.
on the other hand, how can one distinguish being shot by a camera or by a weapon until one is hit?.
Yes most definitely, when a police officer knows he's being video he is much more likely to make sure he does his job right and isn't abusive without proper cause for doing so.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/religious-institutions.
one of our case studies examined the responses of the jehovah’s witness organisation to allegations of child sexual abuse.
we also held an institutional review hearing to provide an opportunity for the jehovah’s witness organisation to inform us of its current policies and procedures in relation to child protection and child safe standards, including responding to allegations of child sexual abuse.as of 31 may 2017, of the 4,029 survivors who told us during private sessions about child sexual abuse in religious institutions, 70 survivors told us about abuse in the jehovah’s witnesses.
I think not following the ARCs recommendations should put every body who is in line to receive payments should put them easily in the higher payments category above the 65,000 figure due to stubborn non compliance of recommendations thus putting children under their care in danger. I think the Governing Body needs to bite the bullet and stop hiding behind their arbitrary 2 witness rule and should start showing a modicum of concern for the children of their members.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/religious-institutions.
one of our case studies examined the responses of the jehovah’s witness organisation to allegations of child sexual abuse.
we also held an institutional review hearing to provide an opportunity for the jehovah’s witness organisation to inform us of its current policies and procedures in relation to child protection and child safe standards, including responding to allegations of child sexual abuse.as of 31 may 2017, of the 4,029 survivors who told us during private sessions about child sexual abuse in religious institutions, 70 survivors told us about abuse in the jehovah’s witnesses.
Something about redress, and monetary payments
As part of our case study, the Jehovah’s Witness organisation provided us with files containing allegations, reports or complaints of child sexual abuse. They provided us with documents relating to at least 1,800 children and over 1,000 alleged perpetrators.
I see a lot of KHs going up for sale eventually in Australia to pay the victims.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/redress-and-civil-litigation
The appropriate level of monetary payments under redress should be:
a minimum payment of $10,000
a maximum payment of $200,000 for the most severe case
an average payment of $65,000.
Monetary payments should be assessed and paid without any reduction to repay past Medicare expenses, which are to be repaid (if required) as part of the administration costs of a redress scheme.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/religious-institutions.
one of our case studies examined the responses of the jehovah’s witness organisation to allegations of child sexual abuse.
we also held an institutional review hearing to provide an opportunity for the jehovah’s witness organisation to inform us of its current policies and procedures in relation to child protection and child safe standards, including responding to allegations of child sexual abuse.as of 31 may 2017, of the 4,029 survivors who told us during private sessions about child sexual abuse in religious institutions, 70 survivors told us about abuse in the jehovah’s witnesses.
I think that if they don't follow the recommendation that the monetary sanctions to follow could be very severe in the future. These recommendations should be taken very seriously by WT legal department which should move the GB to make policy changes to avoid major legal problems. Only time will tell if the GB are too braindead stupid in interpreting scripture so as not to follow these very reasonable recommendations.
We recommend that the Jehovah’s Witness organisation abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse (Recommendation 16.27), revise its policies so that women are involved in processes relating to investigating and determining allegations of child sexual abuse (Recommendation 16.28), and no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassociation is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse (Recommendation 16.29).
i know that some are upset because of the time lost because of ever having been a witness.
have you moved on as an ex jw or are you stil devastated because of your past jw lige?.
I won't say ruined but caused me a lot of wasted time chasing after their bull shit of meeting attendance and as a unpaid advertising agent for the corporation's material prosperity.
That being said I have learned to adjust and change even after 29 years of indoctrination. It wasn't easy but I feel a change at age 47 was good for my brain's neuroplasticity I'm now 64 and have many new interests that make life better and more worth living then the bull shit the WT crammed down my throat.
